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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.20 23:08:00 -
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Quote:Thorax:
Cruiser skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage
7.5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret tracking speed
Slot layout: 5 H, 4 M (+1), 5 L, 5 turrets
Fittings: 820 PWG, 330 CPU (+30)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1200(-324) / 1600(-41) / 1700(-175)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1450(+75) / 490s(+25.25s) / 2.8
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 235(+55) / 0.49(-0.0658) / 11280000 / 5.2s (-0.7)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 52.5km(-2.5) / 280(+21) / 6
Sensor strength: 15 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 130(-10)
Cargo capacity: 465(+200)
Bold the important part.
Not like if Thorax was known for it's ability to fit 1600 plates making it a nice suicide ship or awesome Rails fittings/dps on it. Tracking bonus on this hull it's probably the worst bonus you guys could think about, fix the guns first, eventually give it a rof bonus.
This means Thorax is meant for rails, and fit short range guns on it means a wasted bonus. Well nothing says we have to fit blasters on it but then I look at Vexor and think about drones and smartbombs...
Ruppy all the way :sad panda:
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
752
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Posted - 2012.09.22 09:39:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:The tracking bonus along with 4 mids will make the thorax a bloody frig killing machine.. Which is important if you're roaming in low sec since getting killed by one frig is rather depressing.
The tracking bonus is great, and not just for rails. Stop being bad.
If you fly Thorax with dps drones I understand your need for + tracking to kill the pesky frigate pointing you, however I'm not convinced you'll ever touch it when said frigate is orbiting your Thorax at +15 and over 2km sec.
However if you had some ECM drones you would probably feel better 
Just a different point of view, of course.
Blasters being the highest tracking weapon system with T2 long range ammo adding +25% tracking tells me the tracking bonus on the hull makes it a rail platform. You will not hit better frigates at 15/20 pointing you, this tracking bonus is not what you need to get frigates, you need ecm drones or better drone skills.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
761
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Posted - 2012.09.29 16:06:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Deerin wrote:People have already begun talking about last batch of cruisers....Fozzie where is the last batchof changes.
Please consider following bonus for Moa:
+30% tracking per level on RAILS only. (might be too much but you get the idea)
+%5 resists per level
6 turrets
I would prefer 5% Dmg / 5% Opt / 6 Turrets / 6H 5M 4L / No Drones. With proper fitting for 250mm of course. I don't think it needs close range weapons tracking or a super tank. About 30-35K would be fine, what it needs is project-able mid range Dmg and speed.
Now that would be a decent Thorax !!
Ho wait... 
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
763
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:29:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:Major Killz wrote:Glad @tleast some of you noticed what the proposed Thorax would be capable of. I alluded to it an earlier post, but I might as well go further. The proposed Thorax is a pseudo-Stabber fleet issues with more tracking. You could shield fit it, but why would you? There's something called signature tanking and because medium turrets cannot track cruisers without being effected by a ship bonus. A dual propulsion stabber fleet issue or the proposed Thorax can abuse the tracking of a shield-hurricane and sustain next to know damage from it's turrets (neuts will still f*uck you though).
I hope they give the Rupture a forth mid slot or else Thorax and possible a Vexor with increased velocity and 3 mids alone will own any other cruiser under warp scrambler/web range.
With that said. If CCP gave the Vexor another mid slot, then It will be king under 10k.
Also the Caracal will become a demon. The nano-drake of t1 cruisers without the silly tank, but still.
Anyway, the Thorax's real strength will be with dual propulsion. Which would make it an above class ship killer. All battlcruisers, hacs and cruisers without a tracking bonus, 2 med neuts or web on thier ship will be it's prey. Example: ferox, prophecy, cyclone, vagabond, cynabal etc.
These changes may mean that the Caracal and Omen will dominate "nano/kiting" and the Thorax and Vexor will dominate close range. Leaving the Rupture as the odd man out... Sad day if it comes to past but, I'm hoping the Rupture gets a 4th mid slot = (
Edit: also if you believe those light web drones will help you against the new omen hull in a shield thorax you are mistaken. Use a shield Harbinger against a shield Brutix and figure out the rest (dirty dub face = /). Cross postings an old post = Posted: 2012.09.20 18:40
What he said, the shield Thorax will just murder anything of it's size/class and in gangs will simply be the sight you don't want to have by any means when you cross whatever gate, witch is silly but due to game mechanics and since you can shield/armor fit any ship.
Does Thorax needs and deserves an extra mid? -absolutely BECAUSE armor tanking/weapon system
Does Thorax needs and deserves more PG/CPU? - absolutely BECAUSE armor tanking/weapon system
But what in hell prevents or says you can't shield fit it and make it twice as strong as any other cruiser? -nothing, so do it.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
792
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Posted - 2012.10.11 18:38:00 -
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Whisperen wrote:Thorax needs more grid.
And more cpu so I can fit an Xl ASB and still keep decent number of dmg mods. 
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